Thursday, October 29, 2009

Calvinism?

I don't tend to describe myself as a Calvinist very often.

Depending on what you mean by the term, I probably am one - I think that Calvin's description of how people are saved (his soteriology) is basically the same as what the Bible teaches, and I therefore agree with it. I think Calvin was a very clever bloke and a very gifted Bible teacher and systematic theologian. That doesn't mean I agree with absolutely everything he said, or that I think the fact that he said it settles an argument, but it is definitely worth reading what he said and wrote.

One reason I don't like the label is that it smacks of putting human views about God above worshipping God (in a depressingly 1 Corinthians 1:12 way). But that's not what I'm writing about today.

What I'm writing about today is the way that “5 point Calvinism” is often badly misunderstood to the point where the label “Calvinism” is often understood to mean something very different from what Calvin actually thought.

Calvin died in 1564, but after his death a big argument developed between people who mostly agreed with Calvin and a chap called Arminius about how people were saved. This led to a big meeting called the Synod of Dort, which ended with the Calvinists agreeing on the famous 5 points (in 1619).

Total Depravity
Unconditional Election
Limited Atonement
Irresistible Grace
Perseverance of the Saints

(Note the TULIP acronym.) Now all of those, when properly understood (and taken in the context of the debate with the Arminians), are really important truths. But each of the catchy titles is so vague that it is often misunderstood and taken to mean something it shouldn't mean at all. So some people think they are Calvinists, when actually they're nutters. To protect against that, I think it would have been more helpful if they'd stated stuff like individual responsibility as well, so it didn't look like top-down systematics rather than bottom-up systematics. I know too that a lot of people who described themselves as Calvinists after Calvin's death went a lot further than Calvin did, and I'm not sure if those who attended the Synod of Dort were among them. It's possible that what I think is the correct interpretation of the 5 points isn't actually what they meant by them at Dort. But I'm fairly sure it's what Calvin (and a lot of modern Calvinists) would have meant by them, if he'd said them.

And that's why I don't describe myself as a Calvinist, because what people think Calvinists believe is some distance from what we actually do believe.

Total Depravity

What it should mean: Total depravity means that everything we do and every part of us is affected by the fact we are sinners. We can't do anything that is totally pure and therefore we cannot earn God's favour.

What it shouldn't mean: Total depravity is often understood to mean that people are as bad as we can possibly be, and that we (especially non-Christians) can't do anything good or right. And to be fair, that's what the label sounds like it means too. But it's not what the Bible teaches; it's not what Calvin taught; it's obviously false.

Unconditional Election

What it should mean: Unconditional Election means that we can't earn God's favour or make God choose us. His choice is free and sovereign.

What it shouldn't mean: It doesn't mean that you can have someone who desperately wants God, but finds themselves cut off from him because he hasn't chosen them. It doesn't mean that what we do doesn't matter either, or that God treats the Pol Pots of this world the same as the Mahatma Ghandis.

Limited Atonement

What it should mean: Limited Atonement should mean that Jesus died for the sins of anyone who repents and turns to him, but not for the sins of everyone. People aren't just automatically forgiven because Jesus died – there is a need for individual repentance and faith – but anyone can be forgiven if they repent.

What it shouldn't mean: It shouldn't mean (and Calvin very clearly doesn't mean) that Jesus only died for the sins of a certain clear group of people – the “elect”, so that there's no point trying to reach those who aren't elect. Jesus, Peter, Paul (yes, and Calvin too) were very keen on evangelism – telling people outside the Church to turn to Jesus and trust him.

Irresistible Grace

What it should mean: Irresistible Grace should mean that when God draws someone to him, he does it in such a way that it transforms their desires as well.

What it shouldn't mean: It shouldn't mean that God brings people to him against their will, kicking and screaming.

Perseverance of the Saints

What it should mean: It should mean that nothing the world or the devil throws at those who trust Jesus can stop us from following him. Once someone really has come to trust in Christ, they keep going. Of course, the NT teaches in a couple of places that the key sign that someone has really come to trust Christ is that they keep going...

What it shouldn't mean: It isn't grounds for complacency. It is quite clear that there are people who can look as if they are “in”, who then subsequently show that they weren't. So just because someone “prayed the prayer” 20 years ago, means approximately nothing for whether they are or aren't following Jesus today, and whether they are saved or not.

6 comments:

Casey said...

Total depravity: Does it mean that we do not have the ability to believe unless God has chosen us?

Unconditional election: Does it mean that God chooses who to save arbitrarily?

It seems to me that Calivinists try to avoid the problem by claiming that we're all totally depraved, so the fact that God chooses to save anyone is proof that he is a God of love. It does not make sense to me. For lack of a better way of putting it, if everyone is worthless and God is choosing to save a few because he is good, then what precludes him from saving all?

If I could save a litter of puppies that had fallen into a river but I only pull a few out of the box and let the rest drown, can I claim to be all merciful? What is the difference between that scenario and what God is doing with humans as described by Calvinists?

John said...

Total depravity: "Ability" here is difficult. If someone does really believe, it shows that God has chosen them (as per 1 Thes 1). I'm not convinced that the logic going from there to your statement is valid.

Unconditional election: It doesn't (shouldn't) mean that at all - just that the criteria aren't to do with us deserving it.

More reasons I have difficulty with Calvinism as it is popularly put. I don't think we are worthless (because of our original creation in the image of God), but we are deserving of eternal separation from God because of how we've messed up.

And that is the difference between our situation and your kitten parallel - sin. We can't let truths about God's sovereignty in choosing hide truths about our culpability for our own actions.

Daniel Hill said...

Total depravity classically includes the view that we are naturally unable to believe, and that, thus, we can believe only if God supernaturally enables us. Arminius held that our accepting Christ doesn't earn God's favour, but that, nevertheless, it is something we can naturally do despite our sinfulness. This the Calvinist denies.

Unconditional election is arbitrary in that it depends only on God's `arbitrium' (i.e. his free, sovereign will). There is no reason in Peter or Judas to explain why God chose the first but not the second. This is what Arminius denied: he agreed that we didn't deserve salvation, but maintained that God's choice was conditioned on knowledge of our free belief or lack of it. The Calvinist insists that there are no facts about us, even ones not suggesting that we deserve salvation, that condition God's choice.

John said...

I think I disagree with that last statement, Dan.

I don't see how it fits with 1 Cor 1:27, for example.

Daniel Hill said...

I don't think 1 Cor. 1:27 is teaching that God's reason for saving some and not others is that the first are not influential and wise. (After all, it is God himself that gave the worldly wise and influential their worldly wisdom and influence, so this cannot be a reason for God's choice before the creation of the world (Ephesians 1:4).)

Rather, I think that the chapter is teaching that God decided to save people via the `foolishness' of a cross and the preaching of it (vv. 18 - 25) in order that it would attract the non-wise and non-influential (vv. 24 - 26) so that the saved wouldn't be able to boast of a connection between their wisdom/influence and their reception of the message of salvation (v. 29). In other words, I think the passage isn't teaching the reason for God's election, but the reason for his choice of the process of salvation for the elect (the cross, the preaching, the humility of repentance and faith).

And, of course, it's certainly not the case that lack of wisdom and influence was a hard-and-fast condition of God's election (in the way that foreseen faith was, for Arminius, a hard-and-fast condition of it) because v. 26 says that `not many of you were wise by human standards; not many were influential; not many were of noble birth'. You probably know the story of how Lady Huntingdon used to say that she was saved by the letter `m' . . . .

Casey said...

So if someone has the ability or desire to choose God then it means that God chose them first? So without that action by God we are incapable of desiring to or actually choosing to believe, right? I'm not sure how anyone could say that we are culpable in that case. How can God hold us accountable for something over which we have absolutely no control? Would that not be the same as leaving the puppies to die because they peed in the box?

Also I do not see the logic in Jesus commanding mankind to repent when it is already set in stone who will and who won't.