tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18654361.post8376593968496921047..comments2023-07-06T15:14:57.204+01:00Comments on JOHN'S BLOG: Self-EsteemJohnhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02487495921222083129noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18654361.post-22392978405313183152007-03-14T20:49:00.000+00:002007-03-14T20:49:00.000+00:00I hear ya. To me, it's John announcing "He must i...I hear ya. To me, it's John announcing "He must increase, but I must decrease" and Paul declaring to only boast in Christ. It's not about high or low self-esteem, but about chucking that whole concept out the window with total abandon. What notion of self-worth has any significance in light of the glory of God? What measure of self-esteem could ever compare to the majesty of the simple truth Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11768134409383991876noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18654361.post-69051488507089347102007-03-14T18:49:00.000+00:002007-03-14T18:49:00.000+00:00It's worth adding that I am probably over-reacting...It's worth adding that I am probably over-reacting against the rubbish idolatry in the church that wants to go the world's way of saying "You're worth it."<BR/><BR/>But I can't see whether my view is wrong because it's an overreaction or other people are wrong because they are compromising.Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02487495921222083129noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18654361.post-79226329965453621002007-03-12T13:02:00.000+00:002007-03-12T13:02:00.000+00:00Total depravity goes back at least to Augustine, a...Total depravity goes back at least to Augustine, and Seth is clearly in Adam's image rather than God's... (Genesis 5:3).<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://custardy.blogspot.com/search/label/image%20of%20God" REL="nofollow">Read what I've written about the Image of God</A> before you start disagreeing with it....Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02487495921222083129noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18654361.post-86835751413753390332007-03-12T07:31:00.000+00:002007-03-12T07:31:00.000+00:00I think our current identity as Christians is huge...I think our current identity as Christians is hugely important, but our value is tied to what we are in Christ, not what we are in ourselves.<BR/><BR/>What is the value of a pot formed in and by the potter's hands and then marred? I don't recall it being very great...<BR/><BR/>Yes, there is a kind of historical ontological dignity to people - that we as a species were created in the <A HREF="httpJohnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02487495921222083129noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18654361.post-52070069610814027222007-03-12T07:09:00.000+00:002007-03-12T07:09:00.000+00:00custard, while i agree with much of what you say a...custard, while i agree with much of what you say and agree that this sort of corrective is needed, and that we are fallen and need to come before God as nothing, what about our risen and current identity as God's children? if we start viewing ourselves as nothing in all circumstances, <BR/>i think if we're christians we need to view ourselves as graciously redeemed, and children of the living GodSusan Ahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00894948244988727627noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18654361.post-64047210670778080142007-03-11T23:03:00.000+00:002007-03-11T23:03:00.000+00:00Part of the reason I posted that is that people us...Part of the reason I posted that is that people usually disagree with me when I say stuff like that and I want to figure out why.<BR/><BR/><BR/>We are not as we were originally made by God as good - we're fallen.<BR/><BR/>That person is not <I>intrinsically</I> worth Jesus' entire life - the only value they have is because Jesus attaches value to them, even when they should have been value-less Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02487495921222083129noreply@blogger.com