tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18654361.post7568999715914690988..comments2023-07-06T15:14:57.204+01:00Comments on JOHN'S BLOG: God's AngerJohnhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02487495921222083129noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18654361.post-74267542273855357342007-12-19T22:26:00.000+00:002007-12-19T22:26:00.000+00:00Of course penal substitution isn't the only method...Of course penal substitution isn't the only method by which we're redeemed. It's one mechanism to describe how the atonement works, and emphatically not the atonement itself. I'm afraid I have to join Custard, though, in the camp that's never met anyone advocating a 'psa only' position.<BR/><BR/>As for the punishment thing, the way I see it is that God so dearly wanted nobody to be punished, Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18654361.post-42980114068642802992007-12-16T18:12:00.000+00:002007-12-16T18:12:00.000+00:00It depends which arguments you're in... I've seen ...It depends which arguments you're in... I've seen some which are about God getting angry over sin and some which are about how that anger can be dealt with.<BR/><BR/>I keep hearing about this PSA-only school, but I've never actually spoken to anyone who thinks that. As <A HREF="http://custardy.blogspot.com/2007/11/penal-substitutionary-atonement-and.html" REL="nofollow">I quote elsewhere from theJohnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02487495921222083129noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18654361.post-33909321728355698182007-12-16T18:07:00.000+00:002007-12-16T18:07:00.000+00:00I don't think 'God getting angry' is what most aca...I don't think 'God getting angry' is what most academic non-PSA arguments are about.<BR/><BR/>I disagree with PSA because I don't believe the presupposition that God cannot / does not forgive unless someone is punished.<BR/><BR/>Yes there are texts in the bible that suggest that God won't forgive without retribution. There are also texts in the bible that suggest that God forgives 'for free'. PamBGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11324370506889227234noreply@blogger.com