tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18654361.post113241556746113159..comments2023-07-06T15:14:57.204+01:00Comments on JOHN'S BLOG: Relativism and AtheismJohnhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02487495921222083129noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18654361.post-1161251048432315802006-10-19T10:44:00.000+01:002006-10-19T10:44:00.000+01:00Woah - I love the science comment.You know, I've m...Woah - I love the science comment.<BR/><BR/>You know, I've met a fair few cosmologists, back when I was studying that stuff. Some were atheists, some weren't.<BR/><BR/>No-one thought the universe was eternal, thuogh some argued it was cyclic.<BR/><BR/>Many of them would have used the second law of thermodynamics to show that it couldn't be either eternal or cyclic.<BR/><BR/>Having said that, I Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02487495921222083129noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18654361.post-1161200621715082062006-10-18T20:43:00.000+01:002006-10-18T20:43:00.000+01:00So your god by definition is evil, and the cause o...So your god by definition is evil, and the cause of suffering. Since he created everything in it. Since it is by his actions that we are made to suffer. Since it is his choice to send his alter ego to earth to atone to himself for what he chose to do. <BR/><BR/>Also, science's position is that the universe did not spring into existence uncaused. It has always existed in some form. Natural law Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18654361.post-1156752854655996022006-08-28T09:14:00.000+01:002006-08-28T09:14:00.000+01:00The concept of directionality of burden of proof i...The concept of directionality of burden of proof is in this case a subjective one, as with Occam's razor.<BR/><BR/>I could equally well say that if you believe the universe came into existence uncaused, the burden of proof is on you.<BR/><BR/>As you know, the God I believe in is a God who can exist alongside the suffering of the world - even a God who came to share in the world's suffering.Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02487495921222083129noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18654361.post-1156751688356975112006-08-28T08:54:00.000+01:002006-08-28T08:54:00.000+01:00How can there be evidence against a God who passes...How can there be evidence against a God who passes by on the other side when humans suffer?<BR/><BR/>If you claim there is a God, who does not intervene when children are tortured, then the burden of proof is on you.Steven Carrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11983601793874190779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18654361.post-1156750339234551932006-08-28T08:32:00.000+01:002006-08-28T08:32:00.000+01:00Lets put it this way....You seem to believe that G...Lets put it this way....<BR/><BR/>You seem to believe that God does not exist. You'd say (I guess) that this belief is fully consistent with the evidence, and the contrary belief isn't.<BR/><BR/>Plenty of other people (myself included) believe that God does exist, that this belief is fully consistent with the evidence, and the contrary belief isn't.<BR/><BR/>Put yourself in a meta position for a Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02487495921222083129noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18654361.post-1156721218836699322006-08-28T00:26:00.000+01:002006-08-28T00:26:00.000+01:00What argument is there?That for all we know, there...What argument is there?<BR/><BR/>That for all we know, there might be a God who passes by on the other side when disaster strikes?<BR/><BR/>The Bible says not.<BR/><BR/>Psalm 89<BR/><BR/>8 O LORD God Almighty, who is like you? <BR/> You are mighty, O LORD, and your faithfulness surrounds you. <BR/><BR/> 9 You rule over the surging sea; <BR/> when its waves mount up, you still them<BR/Steven Carrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11983601793874190779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18654361.post-1156680958462811092006-08-27T13:15:00.000+01:002006-08-27T13:15:00.000+01:00Next time try reading and understanding the argume...Next time try reading and understanding the argument first.<BR/><BR/>I haven't yet seen a decent atheist epistemology that doesn't end up hopelessly relativistic.Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02487495921222083129noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18654361.post-1156680300078764392006-08-27T13:05:00.000+01:002006-08-27T13:05:00.000+01:00Many people are not sure about the existence of le...Many people are not sure about the existence of leprechauns.<BR/><BR/>I think claiming that leprechauns do not exist is a bit stupid.<BR/><BR/>And as for the people who claim that Santa Claus does not exist.<BR/><BR/>How can they be so sure? They are stupid to say that.Steven Carrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11983601793874190779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18654361.post-1136244257546263422006-01-02T23:24:00.000+00:002006-01-02T23:24:00.000+00:00A friend e-mailed me about this entry - here's my ...A friend e-mailed me about this entry - here's my reply. His words are in italics.<BR/><BR/><I>Why do you think that if God doesn't exist neither the theist nor the atheist could have any real evidence for their claim? Why couldn't the atheist have suffering as his or her evidence? This is what most of my colleagues claim. And why couldn't the theist have evidence, even including some of the six Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02487495921222083129noreply@blogger.com