tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18654361.post5648621850971514044..comments2023-07-06T15:14:57.204+01:00Comments on JOHN'S BLOG: Wycliffe Hall stuffJohnhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02487495921222083129noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18654361.post-39822310409184034282007-06-10T07:02:00.000+01:002007-06-10T07:02:00.000+01:00Given the rather strong words Paul has to say abou...Given the rather strong words Paul has to say about lawsuits among believers in 1 Corinthians 6, as well as the rather obvious hostility that the press can bring to situations for both parties, it's often considered the lesser of two evils. In pretty much any walk of life.Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02487495921222083129noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18654361.post-39484686222727282832007-06-09T23:32:00.000+01:002007-06-09T23:32:00.000+01:00I am surprised that you would suggest Christians s...I am surprised that you would suggest Christians should bribe (what else could it be)a to avoid a court action. This would suggest there might be a skeleton in the closet.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18654361.post-33321258436504594832007-06-04T12:53:00.000+01:002007-06-04T12:53:00.000+01:00'The effect that this is likely to have is to make...'The effect that this is likely to have is to make the college more conservative in its intake, which is what no-one really wants. Well, there might be someone who wanted it, but I honestly can't think who that is unless it's someone who doesn't want less conservative theological students trained.'<BR/>Being more or less conservative isn't a matter of personal preference or taste; it's a matter Daniel Hillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07823511443088751096noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18654361.post-21378877541775921972007-06-03T12:31:00.000+01:002007-06-03T12:31:00.000+01:00That's all rather assuming that we aren't Christia...That's all rather assuming that we aren't Christians. I'd hope we'd act like Christians and not go to court over internal disputes.<BR/><BR/>If someone has done wrong, they shouldn't need disciplinary proceedings to get rid of them, and many Christians would consider paying someone off to be better than openly going to court with them.<BR/><BR/>There's also the distinct possibility that some Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02487495921222083129noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18654361.post-54429373740542709442007-06-01T19:17:00.000+01:002007-06-01T19:17:00.000+01:00If the disciplinary action is considered unfair, t...If the disciplinary action is considered unfair, then it will end up in an industrial tribunal and then we will all know. If the person leaves and gets a good position, elsewhere then implicitly, the college paid them off and were in the wrong. If they leave and an unemployed then the college are vindicated. As in all these situations it is weighted against the employer.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18654361.post-30832372325207848222007-06-01T07:18:00.000+01:002007-06-01T07:18:00.000+01:00Do we ever get to find out what the disciplinary a...Do we ever get to find out what the disciplinary action was for, except in the account of an anonymous piece of paper which is known to be incorrect on a significant proportion of facts and heavily spun against the college?<BR/><BR/>I suspect not.Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02487495921222083129noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18654361.post-32304977319659220362007-06-01T00:19:00.000+01:002007-06-01T00:19:00.000+01:00If the disciplinary action is over inappropriate b...If the disciplinary action is over inappropriate behaviour (money or sex etc) and they leave, then it can only reflect well on Wycliffe. If it is about someone disagreeing with the principal, then it will reflect very badly on the Wycliffe. If the person disciplined leaves and ends up in another senior post very quickly, then it will be devastating for Wycliffe.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18654361.post-48768726765089852042007-05-30T23:20:00.000+01:002007-05-30T23:20:00.000+01:00I think the thing with Chris Sugden is that he see...I think the thing with Chris Sugden is that he seems to know what is going on here.<BR/><BR/><I>The test for Wycliffe will be what happens to the remaining staff. If any more leave in the next year then it will be obvious that the appointment of the new principal and vice-principal was silly beyond belief.</I><BR/><BR/>I'd agree, with the caveat that if there is disciplinary action going on, and Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02487495921222083129noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18654361.post-65885845633277097532007-05-30T09:06:00.000+01:002007-05-30T09:06:00.000+01:00That is an interesting viewpoint Custard but unfor...That is an interesting viewpoint Custard but unfortunately that is not what the text says.<BR/>It is entitled 'A Covenant for the Church of England'. A covenant would suggest an agreement between all members of the Church of England that was binding and this is not that in any shape or form. The writers obviously thought covenant was a sexy word and used it and by doing so killed off it’s Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18654361.post-23842873934711987412007-05-30T07:33:00.000+01:002007-05-30T07:33:00.000+01:00I don't get where this "it's not really a covenant...I don't get where this "it's not really a covenant" thing came from. Well, apart from Tom Wright. It was a covenant between the people who signed it, who represented a variety of different positions in evangelicalism and many of whom hadn't worked together before.<BR/><BR/>Oh, and ds - you're right. I don't saying those differences were the same. There isn't really a thematic progression between Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02487495921222083129noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18654361.post-87323448113215714602007-05-30T01:22:00.000+01:002007-05-30T01:22:00.000+01:00I'm charitable enough to believe that you weren't ...I'm charitable enough to believe that you weren't meaning to say that the difference between a free-spirited academic college and an applied parish ministry college is identical to a difference between fake religion and the gospel. That's how I read it, so do you want to say that's not what you meant?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18654361.post-43078734279016838792007-05-29T23:23:00.000+01:002007-05-29T23:23:00.000+01:00Is this the same Chris Sugden who signed it's ‘not...Is this the same Chris Sugden who signed it's ‘not really a covenant’ covenant? If so anything he says can be taken with a pinch of salt.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com